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Thanks, Neal. And thanks for the unnecessary tone as well. I didn't exactly break out the calculator to go over "win rate" when writing this, so thanks for that also. If you'd like to shit yourself over who the backup is going to be, have at it. But my point is that there are more important things to discuss than this, and I'm sure fans of the Sharks, Canucks, and Wings are doing just that. You know, Neal?
What tone? Vancouver "won" the Presidents Trophy because of Schneider. Hawks were an 8th seed and almost missed the playoffs because of Turco. If the Hawks had indeed missed the playoffs last year because of Turco's poor play would your opinion on the importance of backup goalies have changed?
You really, honestly, truthfully, think that Vancouver won the President's Trophy because of Schneider? Silly me thinking Luongo's Vezina-caliber season had something to do with it. Or the Sedins being pretty good. Or that Kesler guy. Or... well, everything else the Canucks did well. And if you really think that Turco's play would be THE reason the 'Hawks missed the playoffs last season, you may want to think a bit harder. I may be understating the importance of a backup goaltender, I get that. But, you're undoubtedly overstating it. You do very well with your stats-based posts, man, but "wins rate" among backup goaltenders is one you may not want to delve into on the site. To tell me that Vancouver won the President's Trophy because of Scheinder, and Turco was the reason the 'Hawks almost missed the playoffs is pretty out-of-control ridiculous. That's like saying the Red Sox missed the playoffs by one game because they lost on Dustin Pedroia's day off in May, nevermind the fact they couldn't hit or pitch down the stretch. If that's the case, maybe we would have saved plenty of time by not talking last year about Luongo, the Sedins, Kesler and the Blackhawks' other issues, namely defense and depth. And if the backup goaltender is the person winning and losing everything, you can save your time with the rest of your posts and just monitor the statistics of Emery all year. You'll be posting roughly once every two and a half weeks. I'll be concerned with what's going on in the meantime. Don't mean to turn this into a heated argument because I like the stuff you do but, again, telling me Vancouver's and Chicago's hopes are pinned on each team's backup goaltender is just... not a valid thing to say.
Jeff, I don't really know where the anger is coming from. I didn't really say anything here that was particularly controversial. Vancouver was 16 and 4 when Schneider was in the net. Turco was 11 and 11. Schneider goes .500 and Vancouver loses 12 points. Take those away and Vancouver doesn't win the President's Trophy. Turco wins at the rate of even somebody like Niittymaki and the Hawks have 6 extra points and end up with 103. Turco wins at Schneider's rate and Chicago is competing for the Presidents Trophy. My only point about "win rate" was that the West is so close that the backup goalie matters.
Sorry, I'm really not angry. Your first comment started with, "You know, Jeff..." and that sounded a bit shitty to me, and the rest of your initial comment seemed more focused on demeaning my opinion rather than simply stating yours, which you know I always welcome. I'm not mad by any means, honestly, but as I said before, I think you're placing too much stock in those statistics. Frankly, I think those lost points were the result of stupid penalties, lack of depth and the inability to close teams out. We both have our opinions and we'll leave it at that, cordially.
It seems to me Bartl's point is that Turco had questions last year, so having to squeeze into the playoffs with him was not as much of a surprise. Crawford is not a question. He will remain solid, and he will take us to the post-season. I'm not hearing Bartl share his opinion on backup goalies in general, more like his opinion on Crawford, if that helps. To flesh it out further, perhaps Chicago has less of an affinity for the backup, and more a chronic disbelief in the starter.
It seems to me Bartl's point is that Turco had questions last year, so having to squeeze into the playoffs with him was not as much of a surprise. Crawford is not a question. He will remain solid, and he will take us to the post-season. I'm not hearing Bartl share his opinion on backup goalies in general, more like his opinion on Crawford, if that helps. To flesh it out further, perhaps Chicago has less of an affinity for the backup, and more a chronic disbelief in the starter.




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